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    Wednesday, June 22nd, 2011
    12:00 am
    Videogames and art
    When it doubtlessly stays an fundamental part of my lifestyle, at times I find it increasingly complicated to defend the game playing network. Let me explain.A When ago, film critic Roger Ebert suggested that videogames could in no way be artwork, and ordinarily a sea of indignant online players swelled up, giant and menacing, to show him the error of his ways. Even less-likely solutions of challenge, such as novelist Clive Barker, spoke out towards the claim.

    Not too long ago, Ebert reiterated his point, very much to the dismay of the countless individuals who partook in the assault towards him the first time around; and in his latest blog, he reverts back (albeit briefly) to the really same matter. This brings me to my issue, and I'm directing this towards a very specific demographic; namely, those who opposed Ebert's argument and took a rather vocal, insulting and/or patronising approach to telling him so.

    The issue I speak of, for want of a greater word, is simply lack of edcuation.There is a measurable variation between disagreeing with someone and trying to discredit their judgment based on your own. Opinions are inherently subjective -- inevitably, one's standpoint on any topic will contrast with another's; this is the nature of free-thinking. Presenting arguments for and towards a particular viewpoint is the natural way of going about these things. Conversely, telling a person they are completely wrong, without any factual backing, is ignorance.Unfortunately, a sizeable portion of those who disagreed with Ebert's statement took the ignorant strategy to letting him know, most trying to either undermine his credibility or personally insult him, alongside a selection of the more arrogant individuals who took to offering patronizing affectations along the lines of "he just doesn't understand". Personally, I don't agree with his position, but I respect it and wouldn't dream of telling him he was wrong. There are others who share my view and similarly my way of expressing it; I see these Many people offering up thoughtful arguments, provoking intelligent debate and it reasserts my faith in the community. Then I see someone attempt another fruitless attack at Ebert's intelligence and once again I lose a little hope for the channel of videogames progressing as an fine art form.

    fine art doesn't have a singular, clear description, and what does or does not qualify as artistic is constantly subject to decryption. As such, there is in no way going to be a consensus on the whole "videogames as art" debate, so the whole thing seems slightly pointless. What bugs me is that the Persons who will argue to the end of the Earth and back again do not understand the idea that their attitude speaks of their own insecurity more than anything else. Should the judgment of one man genuinely bother you that very much? As I implied earlier, I clearly believe that videogames are a form of artistic expression, and that puts me in direct opposition to Ebert's judgment. Does that anger me or upset me? No, it doesn't, and likewise it shouldn't spoil anyone else's day either.It's worth remembering that Roger Ebert's expertise lie in cinema, and as such his views on the gaming world actually shouldn't get to you. His being a relatively well-known figure doesn't contribute to the validity of his claim, it merely succeeds in drawing a higher amount of interest to the debate.In theory, that's a positive thing -- video gaming should always be moving forwards and reaching a wider audience.

    The Nintendo Wii has proved that Many people who previously had no interest in videogames can actually be entertained by them, with so-called "casual" game playing being that much-needed starting point for Consumers unfamiliar with the channel. What's to stop a fan of new and innovative art being enticed in significantly the same way? Persons are a little too hasty to criticise Ebert for his clear lack of knowledge, without stopping to think of how he may have done the game playing world a favour.The thing that endears me most to Roger Ebert is the very thing that seems to have everybody else so wound up, and that's how he can take his position based on quite little actual video gaming experience. He's perfectly open about that fact, which means that he is forming his judgment solely on what he sees as "art", rather than any established idea he may have about videogames. Again, that's a positive thing, because it implies he could well change his manner of thinking should he invest enough time actually interacting with a videogame, rather than merely watching video.

    Conversing of the video clips he was shown, even for me it was rather unconvincing. The games Kellee Santiago cited as "art" were at best sketchy and at worst totally un-artistic, with the possible exception of Braid. Had I given the display myself, I would have opted to exhibit games such as Shadow of the Colossus and Okami, which are both decidedly more concurrent with pre-conceived artistic conventions. As it turned out, it appears Kellee grabbed the completely wrong end of entirely the completely wrong stick, and displayed indie games that leant much more towards thematic indulgence than artistic expression, leading to a relatively weak show.I still think it's fairly likely that at some point in the near future someone is going to introduce Roger Ebert to a videogame console. I couldn't possibly say how he will react afterwards, but perhaps if handed the correct titles we may have yet another sceptic being made a believer.We can only hope.

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    Wednesday, April 13th, 2011
    8:54 pm
    Videogames and art
    When it doubtlessly remains to be an important part of my life, at times I find it increasingly complicated to fight for the game playing online community. Let me make clear.A When ago, film critic Roger Ebert claimed that videogames could in no way be fine art, and typically a ocean of irritated online players swelled up, giant and menacing, to show him the error of his ways. Even less-likely sources of challenge, such as novelist Clive Barker, spoke out in opposition to the claim.

    Not long ago, Ebert reiterated his point, significantly to the dismay of the countless individuals who partook in the strike in opposition to him the first time around; and in his latest blog, he reverts back (albeit briefly) to the quite same matter. This brings me to my issue, and I'm directing this towards a quite specific demographic; namely, those who opposed Ebert's argument and took a rather vocal, insulting and/or patronising method to telling him so.

    The issue I speak of, for want of a better word, is simply prejudice.There is a measurable big difference between disagreeing with someone and trying to discredit their viewpoint based on your own. Opinions are inherently subjective -- inevitably, one's standpoint on any topic will contrast with another's; this is the nature of free-thinking. Presenting arguments for and in opposition to a particular viewpoint is the natural way of going about these things. Conversely, telling a person they are incorrect, without any factual backing, is prejudice.Unfortunately, a sizeable portion of those who disagreed with Ebert's statement took the ignorant method to letting him know, most trying to either undermine his credibility or personally insult him, alongside a selection of the more arrogant individuals who took to offering patronizing affectations along the lines of "he just doesn't understand". Personally, I don't agree with his position, but I respect it and wouldn't dream of telling him he was incorrect. There are others who share my view and similarly my way of expressing it; I see these Consumers offering up thoughtful arguments, provoking intelligent debate and it reasserts my faith in the online community. Then I see someone attempt another fruitless attack at Ebert's intelligence and once again I lose a little hope for the medium of videogames growing as an fine art form.

    fine art doesn't have a singular, clear description, and what does or does not qualify as artistic is constantly subject to decryption. As such, there is in no way going to be a consensus on the whole "videogames as art" debate, so the whole thing seems slightly pointless. What bugs me is that the Consumers who will argue to the end of the Earth and back again do not understand the idea that their attitude speaks of their own insecurity more than anything else. Should the viewpoint of one man really bother you that significantly? As I implied earlier, I highly believe that videogames are a form of artistic expression, and that puts me in direct opposition to Ebert's viewpoint. Does that anger me or upset me? No, it doesn't, and likewise it shouldn't spoil anyone else's day either.It's worth remembering that Roger Ebert's expertise lie in movies, and as such his views on the game playing world really shouldn't get to you. His being a relatively well-known figure doesn't contribute to the validity of his claim, it merely succeeds in drawing a higher amount of attention to the debate.In theory, that's a positive thing -- game playing should always be going forwards and reaching a wider target market.

    The Nintendo Wii has proved that Consumers who previously had no interest in videogames can actually be entertained by them, with so-called "casual" game playing being that much-needed starting point for Consumers unfamiliar with the medium. What's to stop a fan of new and artistic fine art being enticed in significantly the same way? Consumers are a little too hasty to criticise Ebert for his clear prejudice, without stopping to think of how he may have done the game playing world a favour.The thing that endears me most to Roger Ebert is the quite thing that seems to have everybody else so wound up, and that's how he can take his position based on quite little actual game playing experience. He's perfectly open about that fact, which means that he is forming his viewpoint solely on what he sees as "art", rather than any fixed idea he may have about videogames. Again, that's a positive thing, because it implies he could well change his manner of thinking should he invest adequate time actually interacting with a videogame, rather than merely watching video footage.

    Communicating of the video footage he was shown, even for me it was rather unconvincing. The games Kellee Santiago cited as "art" were at best sketchy and at worst totally un-artistic, with the possible exception of Braid. Had I given the presentation myself, I would have opted to show games like Shadow of the Colossus and Okami, which are both decidedly more concurrent with pre-conceived artistic conventions. As it turned out, it appears Kellee grabbed the incorrect end of entirely the incorrect stick, and displayed indie games that leant significantly more towards thematic indulgence than artistic expression, leading to a relatively weak show.I still think it's fairly likely that at some point in the near future someone is going to introduce Roger Ebert to a videogame console. I couldn't possibly say how he will react afterwards, but perhaps if handed the correct titles we may have yet another sceptic being made a believer.We can only hope.

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